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Comment on Evangelical Christianity and Cognitive Dissonance by Sabio Lantz

Sabio Lantz — Sat, 01 Jun 2013 08:57:17 +0000

To think we understand someone by saying they are “in a state of cognitive dissonance” may be mistaken.

Sure, when pressed, we can get people (anyone) to say contrary things, whether about politics, sex, religion, morality or such. But people do not bank so much on the TRUTH of an idea but by its functionality and associations. To expect otherwise is to misunderstand how the human mind works and how people relate. Mind you, pointing out inconsistencies may be helpful. But the *functions* for which a person holds any set of beliefs may not contradict each other even though the logic of the beliefs may. It is important to discuss the functions if we really want to understand a person (and ourselves).

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Sabio Lantz — Sat, 01 Jun 2013 08:50:02 +0000

Well illustrated point. I think it shows clearly that most people are not religious for intellectual reasons at all. The inconsistencies don’t illustrate “intellectual dishonesty”, but several principles:
(1) we all lead partitioned lives where we turn on and off some sorts of judgements, discernments and such that we may use strongly in another part of our life.
(2) most people do not embrace or identify with their religion for intellectual or doctrinal reasons.
(3) “consistency” is not a prime motivator: be it their view on religion, politics, morality, law or more.

Since these principles are at work, it should not be surprising if people don’t ” jettison their entire religious cargo” after having someone point out inconsistencies that would exist for someone that systematically embraced their faith for doctrinal reasons — for you wouldn’t be talking to them.

The trick is for atheists to see how they also still do 1, 2 and 3 even though they consider themselves free of such things in their religious thinking.

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