I came across this tidbit and had to get your opinion:
Umm, okay…
What, exactly, has a god entrusted to humankind? Any thoughts?
–the chaplain
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Ric
August 3, 2011 at 3:41 pm
He trusted humans to be too stupid to figure out that they didn’t need him or his clones.
Sarge
August 3, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Assinine nonsense. Just nonsense.
What, are we puppies that are being given the benefit of the doubt that we won’t shit on the floor or chew up the carpeting?
Brian M
August 3, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Given human history (ecological collapse, wars, oppression, superstition, and yes, the invetion of bloodthirsty religions), I’m afraid, Sarge, we have failed at our house training.
vinnyjh
August 3, 2011 at 8:32 pm
He doesn’t trust us to use the brain he gave us to reason about the world around us. He will fry us for all eternity should we have the temerity not to base every choice we make on arbitrary interpretations of ancient tribal myths.
John Evo
August 3, 2011 at 9:16 pm
It’s kind of “miraculous” that so many people still honestly believe they are having some sort of “relationship” with imaginary beings. Given our technological achievements, I think it may be safe to say we are are every bit as doomed as the Christian faith believes us to be. Classic self-fulfilling prophecy.
Ric
August 4, 2011 at 8:56 am
Why John, do I detect a slight whiff of good old fashioned Ludditeidness?
Sarge
August 4, 2011 at 5:58 am
“…I’m afraid, Sarge, we have failed at our house training…”
Well, I don’t say “no”, but I doubt that it had anything to do with any deities fluttering about the aether.
Language like that used in the quote seems to be more in the line of a specific jargon meant to make a certain feeling or evoke a certain image among a specific group of people. Sort of a stimulous thing.
I hear things like that when I play in churches, people nodding their heads in affirmation and understanding… and it makes no sense to me at all on any level.
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Ahab
August 4, 2011 at 10:43 am
Frankly, what’s the use of a god you can’t trust?
desertscope
August 6, 2011 at 3:30 pm
If Jehovah, Yahweh, or whoever created us with a mischievous curiosity and thirst for knowledge, then isn’t it rather naive of her (Shouldn’t a creator god be female? Just saying…) to trust us to limit our intellectual aspirations to those of our Bronze Age forebears?
Charles H. Green
August 6, 2011 at 11:49 pm
How would we even know if a God trusted us or not? Good theology suggests we relate to God by faith alone, nothing can be proven. If that’s so, then either God doesn’t exist at all, or he chooses to make himself entirely opaque to us. Either way, how would we possibly know whether that question makes any sense at all?
If I doubt God’s existence, then the ‘God trusts me’ argument is nil. If I have faith, then any supposition about trust on the deity’s part is equally pure faith, aka dreaming it up on my own.
Which to me makes the question boil down to, “what does it mean to be trustworthy?” And not much else. Talk of God just mucks up the conversation, or so it seems to me.
Sarge
August 7, 2011 at 7:29 am
I sometimes think that people would rather HAVE an untrustworthy deity. One that demands but doesn’t necessarily deliver the promised goods,
The appeal of Calvinism, the uncertainty…sort of a mental adventure, riding a cosmic tiger…
But, you “have to have faith”.
Maybe this is god’s will…maybe not…maybe god is indicating (in some vague way) x, y, or z.
This often, to me, is sort of like the girl who can’t stay away from the “bad boys” (AKA abusive, untrustworthy bums) or the guy who can’t stay away from the tramp that takes and never gives back anything but attitude.
We’ve all seen it, it’s “love”, they have a “special relationship”, outsiders can’t “understand” it.
That’s the mutual “trust” I often see.
Michael
August 7, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Who knows what this means. He is a salvation army guy. I think that biblical philosophers (theologians) would find his theology suspect. People usually give them great respect because they do wonderful humanitarian work. They also believed that they are “saved” by doing good humanitarian works. So I guess that all works out for them.
I ran across this tidbit on the explanation of hermaphrodites. http://carm.org/hermaphrodites
Of course, sin is a convenient explanation of everything and is second only to “God did a miracle”.
Why does the young earth look old? Sin.
Why do some people have penises and vaginas? Sin.
Lorena
August 12, 2011 at 11:27 pm
It’s amazing how as Christians we think meaningless phrases like that are so awesome. Once we take the blinders off, it sounds like a bunch or rubbish.
Kagehi
August 13, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Bit old, but I think my reply to this is, “How do you read things like Noah, Job, etc., and leap to the completely insane conclusion that the God in there trusts us with *anything*?”
The chaplain
August 14, 2011 at 10:07 am
Howdy! Sorry I haven’t responded before. I’ve been camping in the mountains for the past week & haven’t had either WiFi or G3 access. Glad to see the conversation has carried on without me.
Sabio Lantz
August 14, 2011 at 10:41 pm
I think they would say that: “God trusts believers to do his work on earth through the power of the Holy Spirit made possible via God’s sacrifice”
Complete horseshit, of course, but I am guessing that is what they mean.
Hey – I just posted a comic spoofing prayer” — if you are interested.
Ron Decker
August 28, 2011 at 1:27 am
We have responsibilities (as people, here on planet Earth, wherever we are) and we have the ability to live up to those responsibilities.